"evidence-based optimism" and a plan!
Bill Nye told Live Science, "Well look, you have to be optimistic, or you're not gonna get anything done — and I'm talking about anything. If you think you're gonna lose the soccer game, you will lose."
Reminding me of comments by Jacinda Ardern, Bill says, "You've got to have a plan, not just hope and optimism. And that plan comes from science. From evaluating evidence."