Honest Optimism: In Conversation with Kevin Novak and Jeff Kerr-Bell
by Victor Perton
I had the pleasure of sitting with Kevin Novak, CEO of 2040 Digital and author of "The Truth About Transformation", and Jeff Kerr-Bell, a leading Australian change executive and co-author of "The Optimist Checklist for Success in Transformation and Change Projects." Together, we explored the essential role of optimism in driving successful transformation projects, particularly in leadership, problem-solving, and navigating challenges.
At the Centre for Optimism, we always ask a simple but profound question: "What makes you optimistic? Is it life experience? Is it faith? Is it mindset?" I asked Kevin this very question, and he responded beautifully:
"It's mindset. I am at my core an optimistic person, always believing that the future is going to be positive, that we can get through the problems. I'm a problem solver, which we do for all of our clients, and it's important to have that mindset to help guide them through and let them know it's going to be a bit of a bumpy ride. But there is optimism at the end. I'm also Nichiren Buddhist, so very much believe the Buddhist is inside of you. And if you focus and chant centre yourself, you can see the benefit and positive of things."
Kevin's insights into optimism are grounded in realism. His book, "The Truth About Transformation", explores this further, highlighting the importance of honest optimism in navigating change.
In our discussion, Kevin explained that transformation is often challenging and met with resistance. Still, leaders must guide their people through these hurdles by maintaining optimism while being realistic about what can be achieved. He emphasised that being overly aspirational without considering the "mechanics of the situation" can lead to setbacks. As Kevin said, the key is "honest optimism," which combines positivity with a clear view of the available resources and capabilities. This helps people focus on achievable steps, building momentum for success.
Jeff Kerr-Bell also shared his perspective on optimism, particularly in the context of leadership during transformation. He said:
"What makes me optimistic at the moment is there are so many people that are working hard on the big problems of the world and the big problems of our country. And with that kind of effort and collectivism and shoulder to the grindstone, you can't help but be optimistic that we will continue to solve the problems that we have done as a species for millennia."
For Jeff, the success of any change or transformation project lies in engaging stakeholders with a compelling and optimistic vision. As the co-author of "The Optimist Checklist for Success in Transformation and Change Projects", Jeff stressed the importance of aligning leaders and followers alike to a shared purpose. He reinforced the notion that optimism isn't about ignoring challenges but about accepting and working through them.
Our conversation also touched on the challenges of fostering optimism, especially among the younger generation. Kevin pointed out that younger people facing global challenges like climate change start from a "different base of possibility" compared to previous generations. He emphasised the need for leaders to guide and coach them, helping them see beyond difficulties and the potential for positive outcomes. This nurturing of optimism is critical in ensuring the next generation remains hopeful and driven to tackle the issues they face.
Ultimately, this discussion stood out because optimism is a practical tool for driving successful transformation. Kevin and Jeff emphasised the importance of realistic, people-centred leadership in navigating change. Storytelling, a compelling vision, and honest optimism are key to keeping people engaged and moving forward, even when the path is tough.
Reflecting on this conversation, I'm reminded of the power of optimism to inspire and unite. By modelling optimism in our leadership, we foster a culture where challenges are met with innovation and resilience, and the future is seen as a space of possibility and hope.