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In one of the most energising and soul-stirring episodes of That Optimism Man Podcast to date, Victor Perton is joined by Anne Therese Gennari, widely known as The Climate Optimist, and author of The Climate Optimist Handbook.
This episode is more than a conversation; it is a rallying cry to reclaim our agency, imagination, optimism and joy in the face of challenge. Together, Anne Therese and Victor explore how leading with infectious optimism can spark personal transformation, inspire bold climate action, and build a world grounded in hope rather than fear.
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The Climate Optimist Meets That Optimism Man: Anne Therese Gennari in Conversation
That Optimism Man Victor Perton
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Anne Therese shares her own journey—from an overwhelmed, angry activist to a grounded optimist and joyful mother. She opens up about the shift that changed everything for her: realising that optimism is a daily practice, not a passive outlook. It is something we can all cultivate, strengthen, and model for others.
“Optimism is a practice… but the good thing is, you can get better at it.”
—Anne Therese Gennari
Her message is timely and vital. While the dominant climate narrative often leads us to despair, Anne Therese advocates for a new kind of leadership—one that is rooted in courage, curiosity, and the bold belief that a better world is possible.
“Since we are in power of creating and writing the future, why wouldn’t we bring our most optimistic self to that picture?”
—Anne Therese Gennari
Throughout the conversation, Victor and Anne Therese weave together science, storytelling, and practical wisdom. They dive into neuroscience, the power of media, and how positive visions of the future can spark action more effectively than fear-driven campaigns ever could.
Anne Therese invites listeners to shift from reaction to creation. To move from anxiety to imagination. And to embrace a simple yet profound truth:
“We are not here just to fight the old world. We are here to build a new one.”
This episode is for the climate-concerned. For the changemakers. For the quietly hopeful and the boldly visionary. It is a call to reclaim our power to act, to lead, and to live with joy.
🌱 What You'll Learn in This Episode:
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Why optimism is essential for transformation and innovation
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How to shift the climate conversation from doom to imagination
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The science of optimism and how it rewires our brains for possibility
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How motherhood revealed the magic of presence and simplicity
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Why anger and fear alone cannot fuel lasting change
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Practical tips to become a magnetic optimist—in your life, your work, and your community
• 59 min
The Climate Optimist Meets That Optimism Man: Anne Therese Gennari in Conversation
That Optimism Man Victor Perton
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